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"To me, this is the difference between management and leadership. Management is a job. It’s a role. It’s like being a teacher, or a police officer, or a heart surgeon. There are various responsibilities that come with that role. It can be given to you, and it can be taken away, whereas leadership is a quality that you have to earn."
Julie Zhuo
Listen as Julie Zhuo, VP of Product Design at Facebook and author of The Making of a Manager recalls some of her earliest professional experiences at one of the fastest-growing companies on the planet. She reveals how she got her start and grew to be a highly influential design leader renowned for building top-notch teams. Julie talks about the difference between leading and managing and shares personal examples that can help you advance your career. Bio Julie Zhuo is one of Silicon Valley’s top product design executives and author of The Making of a Manager. Aside from her day job as VP of Product Design at Facebook, Julie writes about technology, design, and leadership on her popular blog The Year of the Looking Glass and in The New York Times and Fast Company.
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Julie Zhuo is one of Silicon Valley’s top product design executives and author of The Making of a Manager. Aside from her day job as VP of Product Design at Facebook, Julie writes about technology, design, and leadership on her popular blog The Year of the Looking Glass and in The New York Times and Fast Company.
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Julie’s career arc paralleled the rocketship trajectory of the social media company, as she grew from an intern to manager of large teams over the course of just a few years. She recently collected much of what she learned over this period in her book, The Making of a Manager. We spoke with Julie about the book and her career at Facebook, and along the way, Julie shared her thoughts on the distinction between leadership and management.
Julie believes that the individual contributor (IC) track should be full of possibilities for leadership, even though the roles aren’t always structured to enable that. In her mind, that’s the difference between a manager and a leader.
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